![]() ![]() and may now wear parts originally made for black powder guns. I've heard about a fair amount of uncertainty for colt SAA's that fall in the middle of the range (that, and its hard to know whether the gun was built for smokeless, but has had parts swapped out since it was built. Unfortunately, for some models stuck right in the middle, its never certain at all whether the gun WAS designed for smokeless or not. Sometimes it comes down to serial numbers, design differences, etc. Seems like with most firearms in the "transitional period" of 1890 - 1910, its usually not so easy to tell whether they are designed for smokeless or not. Which, by the way, is a really really handy thing - to be able to tell so easily. Iver Johnson’s First Model has a single locking post that interfaced with the top-strap hinge. I've always heard that the main spring was the thing to look for on these - if its got the coil mainspring, its safe with smokeless. The third model was the first one to be approved for smokeless powder by IJ and remained in production till WWII.+1 ![]() If you post it the actual year of production can be determined. If you look under the left grip you should find the complete serial number which will often have a letter prefix. Thank you for any assistance you might be able to offer.With the coil mainspring you have a third model safety hammer revolver. I would post photos if I could take high resolution close ups but that isn't the case. Thanks much for any assist on the above 2 requests. I've seen the suggested "make on using a screwdriver" suggestions but I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of such a tool. Regarding a tool to unscrew the firing pin nut in the breech face to replace the firing pin, I have checked Brownell's and contacted their "expert" and they apparently do not have a suitable pin tool. Hammer mainspring is a coil spring, not flat. Grips are hard rubber and owl heads face outward, not looking fwd, nor rearwardġ0. Similarly, the PT at the beginning of line 2 may be SEPT)ĩ. JUNE may have some preceding letters or numbers and the 96 at end of line 1 is very hard to read. on some models there was a different series every year. pre 1905 (1904 and before) which were more like batch numbers and usually ran from 1 to 99,999. This gentleman has spent years gathering information and the book is very informative. Line 2: PT.16.04 PATS PENDING (note: patent info is very worn at each end of lines 1 and 2. H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due fall of 2008) available from Gun Show Books. The patent info is on grip back strap as follows: line 1: T. Engraving on top of solid rib on bbl: line 1:IVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS* ,Ĩ. Serial Number on bottom of trigger guard is 2650 and Serial Number B2650 is beneath L grip scale, located on L side fwd strap of grip frame.ħ. Frame top carries 2 rectangular latch lugsĦ. Top latch has round, checkered buttons on each sideĥ. Cyl has 5 chambers and is locked (will not rotate freely) when top break action is closedĤ. First, I would like to confirm the YOM, and whether or not this revolver is among the "black powder only" earlier versions, and, Second, I would like to find or fabricate a tool to extract the round firing pin "nut" at the top of breech face.Ģ. It has a 4 digit SN with a prefix B, which I would suspect is first year of "new model". I believe it is also among the "black powder only" earlier versions. There were three solid frame and five top break models of the U.S. Revolver Company revolvers is that the hammer version does not have the Hammer the Hammer action of the regular line and the hammerless version does not have the safety trigger. Best info I've dredged up is that it is a "new model", which, I believe from reading threads on this forum, is from 2009 and later. The only differences between the Iver Johnson regular line of revolvers and the U.S. A weeks wage back then was around 1.00 a day. The Iver Johnson Safety Automatic cost 6.00. In 1905, a Colt Single Action Army cost 13.00 and a Smith & Wesson top break cost 10.00. Cleaning up subject revolver for a friend who wants to know how old it is. Iver Johnsons were not considered 'Saturday Night Specials'. ![]()
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